Who is Lee Thranduil-Ned-Roy-Joe Pace ?

I've been very surprised by his signature. Watching him, I thought Lee would be euhm...maybe more "Joe" than "Ned". He's actually more Ned than Joe. And he's nothing at all like Thranduil :D

So who is Lee ?

The most interesting part of that picture is his signature. Lee never signs "Lee     Pace" , he ALWAYS signs "leePace" : there ain't no Lee without Pace, Lee doesn't think of his own self without his familly. Tom Hiddleston signs "tom + Hiddleston", he thinks Tom, AND Hiddleston. Lee makes no distinction. There's no Lee all alone. So, if he loves you but his familly don't, he will always choose his familly. You take Lee+Pace or you just have nothing at all.

Plus : Lee does not feel the need to protect himself, but you see the P of Pace? Laaarge, round, the most important part of his signature : Lee is drawing you his love for mum/dad, and then he writes "ace" under P : Lee is very protective with "Pace". And when I say "very protective", I mean that the only real way to get him angry is to attack "Pace". You can bite Lee, you cannot touch Pace.

Reading all this, you're allowed to think loneliness probably scares him a lot. In France we always say "Il vaut mieux être seul que mal accompagné" (it is better to be alone than in bad company) Lee would probably not say that :D.

Another interesting part of that picture is (hard to explain :D) F and G, those 2 letters have down parts. Down parts measure materialism/money/greed (and other things we won't talk about) , and Lee restricts those parts as much as possible. So yep, I'm gonna tell you now, there ain't no materialism inside Lee, Lee can be rich or poor and still happy. So, Lee is probably an adventurer : living things/experience seem to be more important to him than gainning anything.

That would make him rather impredictible.

Lee is a very positive person (rising writing). He's sociable too .

(I'm never done with handwriting/signature analysis, so, more to come, soon or not)

As I already explained here, eyes are mirrors of our souls, they speak a langage that our mind and your heart understand instantly.

That's because our brains are divided in 2 parts : our "left brain" controls thoughts, and our "right brain" controls emotions. When you look at sometone, that person can instincly feel how you feel about her/him : your eyes are speaking for you. They speak about pain, joy, emotions, and thoughts. So if someone looks at you with his "right eye", his right brain, you feel his emotions, if someone is watching you with his left eye, you feel...uncomfortable, like he's analysing you. Cause that's exactly what that person is doing.

Eyes are the reason why however bad Loki can act, we adore him, because his eyes are talking pain to our hearts. And eyes are the reason why, however breathtaking Thranduil is, you immediatly feel he's dangerous, when he looks at you straight in the eyes, you feel uncomfortable. Thranduil is almost always watching people with HIS left eye, he's not feeling, he's thinking.

look what happens here, even if the studio's lights are lighting the right side of his face, his left eye seems...bigger, brighter than the right one !

Now look what happens when Thranduil is really feeling somethin, anger : he's suddenly watching with his right eye :

Of course, that's something directors know very well, you can see Peter Jackson filmed Thranduil's left face almost all of the time.

Look at his eyes the very first time you can see him :

You see how's he's watching Thorin with his thinking-left eye ? even if the right one is lightened, this right eye is not staring at Thorin, it squints a little, it's not the watching eye.

I said I would not blog about "Sebby" autographs/handwriting or anything.

I said it :$

Buuuuut...in the end...maybe we can talk about 1/2 few things...well...maybe...euhm, let's try :)

First : I don't have enough material to really work. BUT I have his signature, and that's the most important.

So, who are we talking about ?

We are talking about this man here 

First reaction : oooh he's adorable...I mean, for a volcano, he's adorable. And then I saw this :

And I was just "?? !!! Oh...euhm...why? oh..."

First : let's say all of those autographs are real.

Sebastian a mystery wrapped in an enigma surrounded by a contradiction. Sebastian is complication. That's it.

People usually think Tom hiddleston feels so so much, I mean, more than anyone of us. It's not true. Tom Hiddleston shows emotions he really has (I never said he's a hypocrite), but he doesn't FEEL more than us, he just shows more.

Sebastian feels more than Tom. But Sebastian cares a lot about controlling/not showing. He's refraining, not from feeling, but from showing. He does it very consciously. He doesn't want to show how he feels. But inside, he feels more than Tom, he's more sensitive. Inside, "sebby" is a volcano. Everything is very violent. No peace, no calm, feelings are exploding, violently, and thoughts are fighting feelings, violently too (that's the most important thing about Sebastian : thoughts are fighting feelings)

And because he's always refraining from showing us how he feels, people say "he's shy, he's a turtle". Mistake. Sebastian is not shy. At all actually. Shyness, to define it clearly,  is a feeling of insecurity that some people experience when they are in contact with their peers, or when they talk to other people. Shyness is associated to fear and/or shame. And shyness has a very little writing, shyness wants to disappear. Nothing like that in Sebastian writing or signature. At all. Sebastian doesn't like to be exposed, it's not about "a feeling of insecurity", it's more like prudery. The way he feels, who he is, it belongs to him, it's very personal, so he gives it to people he chooses, not to the whole world. It's about controlling what you give to people you don't know. It's about intimacy. So it's not exactly shyness.

 Sebastian is the type of guy (ah ah, Twitter will love that) showing feelings to people he trusts. And because Sebastian is not Tom, he doesn't trust you before submitting you to thousand kind of (stupid) tests, before deciding (cause he decides that) to trust you or not. And trusting people, feeling confident with them can take Sebastian A LOT of time. If you' renlucky enough, he will show you his real sense of humor (he has alot) two or three YEARS after you met him. Yep, it can take THAT MUCH time. 

You see that ?

This how Trent Reznor is telling you to stay away from him. Far away. 

Sebastian sometimes is telling you the same. But most of the time, He's telling you "hey! We don't know each other ok ! Tame me!" Sebastian is The Fox in  St Exupery The Little Prince. 

Let's compare him to a gardener (we all are gardeners anyway), and people he meets are seeds, fallen into his garden. If you fall into Hiddleston's garden, he will hysterically be happy, so curious about this new little seed growing in his garden (I'm sure you picture that very clearly :D). But you're in Seb's garden, and Sebastian is not Hiddleston, so you're wellcome, meeting people is 100% ok (sebastian is nothing like a bear in a cave, he's VERY sociable), but he's the suspicious/watcher kind of gardener. You know, he's been working hard on the garden of his relationships with others, he's a kind of collector, not many flowers here, but he strictly selected each ones. And now, here you are, and he doesn't know you. So he's taking you from his garden, and he's kinda plant you in a pot and cultive you in his veranda, to know what kind of flower you are, to decide if he wants you or not in his garden. And he's calling gardeners-friends "hey man, I got this new seed you know, did you ever seen this before ? What kind of flower is that? Which color ? How does it smells like?".

A new seed, it a very serious thing to such a serious gardener :)

Once he decides to grow you, in the garden of his affection, you have to know that you kinda...belong to him (yep, I'm telling you he's possessive but he doesn't seem to be excessively possessive, I need more handwriting) ...and he knows you, he's been watching you for a while, in his veranda. He choosed a place, he dug a hole just for you, he knows what you need to grow and what kind of plant you are. He's caring. 

And if it ever happened that you don't grow the way you're supposed to, if you die, or if he has to uproot you from his garden...it's a tragedy. He spent time and energy on you, he's been silently watching you from his chair...so if you disappear, for a very long time, he will sit on the ground and watch the place where you were growing, wondering what went wrong : too much water, too much sun, too much wind, or not enough..? Why is that place empty now? What went wrong...and worse : Is it my falt ?

There will always be a scar.

Sad story.

Did I mention Seb's got a real sense of humor? He has . So no, everything is not dramatical, there is lot of fun too :) And tenderness, a lot of tenderness, sebby the Turtle" is a Teddy Bear.

You see that point ?

It's called  "point of authority". It means "I said what I had to. Now let's talk about something else". End of everything. No more talk, no negociation.

 Trying to control feelings always creates an internal disharmony. Internal disharmony is dangerous. Fighting against your own self bothers. And bothered people drink and do drugs.

Good news : you can control a volcano. 

what is VERY VERY interesting to me is that, "Sebby" met The Winter Soldier. And you can be certain it changed his life, from the inside I mean : diet, sport, choosing to do it (no one ever forced him to be J.B.Barnes, he choosed it, he knew) and now being forced to really run in the morning, learn to fight...Sebastian enclosed himself in a box in which he choosed to enter (that choice is important), a box called discipline. THIS is exactly how you can control your internal volcano : your mind is constantly thinking about a higher goal, something that's hard physically. So your mind is not thinking about feelings. The more you think about what makes you suffer, the more you suffer. But if you can think about something else...

That's what teens do, when they cut themselves not to suffer anymore : physical pain replaces mental pain, for a while, and it eases, a very bad way. 

It's just a matter of distracting your mind from thinking/suffering. It's a trick. But it works. It's even used in sophroplogy, to ease moderate pain.

When you're volcano inside, and Sebastian is, you think too much, and you feel as much as you think. Little problems become mountains in your mind. You have to break the thoughts. Discipline is the best way. Sebastian found the Winter Soldier inside of his own self. If he doesn't stop discipline/sport/diet/control, his autographs would be soon to be simplier, clearer. Almost peacefull. And then I will talk about end of search, affirmation, and accepting/loving himself (let's wait 5/6 years and see ^_^)

So watching autographs from now on will be very interesting.

Volcano people need limits, a goal, something to reach, a reason not to think too much. In France we usually say "l'oisiveté est mère de tous les vices" : Idleness is the mother of all vices. This sentence was created for volcano-people :). Don't let a Sebastian Stan on his own, not doing anything. And don't give him facility : he needs difficulty, it keeps him busy. And "busy" kills anxiousness. Cause it's all we're talking about here : Sebastian is anxious by nature. So that he needs time, for everything. If he rushes, his thoughts cannot bring order all around, nothing's under control, it's chaos inside. You can rush Tom Hiddleston, not Sebastian Stan.

And he clearly suffered from loneliness, from being an only child (trust me Seb, you're wrong about that!)

      I bet if you met him for few hours, you may think he's a the nice guy, not talking too much (talking means showing something, you cannot ask him to talk you're torturing him, com'ooon :D And anyway, he just met you, he's busy thinking/observing you.). Talking means externalizing. Sebastian is busy internalizing. So talking is probably not his thing.  In case of deep rage, you'll probably find him hitting walls. Or drinking. Women talk. Men, they drink (but maybe now, he will just run for few hours-winter soldier, discipline!)

       I bet his long lasting friends will tell you that he can have very violent rage, that he can show passionate love, that he's sometimes aggressive, that he has disproportionate reactions (argh, that's when lava is flowing from the volcano, feelings sometimes, they show off...argh...). They will probably say he is challenging-provocative-defiant...the whooooole package (so that he probably look at you right in the eyes while talking to you, he's kinda defying you)...and he's the thinking guy too. Paradoxe. Contradiction. He's defying, his own self probably. Or a girl friend who laughed at him at school. Or his father who once said "no". Or a friend thinking he cannot do it. Who knows...

I bet his friends will tell about a Sebastian looking at you right in the eyes and saying "no" and you know you just have to stop right now, cause he's about to just kill you. Problem with volcanos is, you know when they erupt, not when they stop. You know when Sebastian is violently exploding, you don't know when he stops. However adorable Sebastian is (and he really is), he's got grounds and rooms for physical violence. And because he's the thinking guy always imploding, when he stop imploding to explode, it's very violent.

I don't see any spritual/mysthical aspiration (but those things are hard to evaluate and I have very few, so I might be wrong), at this point, I just see a man searching for himself inside his own self throught experiences. And acting is a good way to live experiences. I see a man pushing his own limits, to define them, over and over. 

He's made of contradictions. He's chaotic/excessive... but with order. Sad but not really depressed, firmly rooted in present but positively looking future (and it's a contradiction : people firmly living in Present, they just don't think about Future, but Sebastian does!). He has issues but he's fighting each one, he's made of tenderness/sociability/need of love/kindness with room for violence/anger. Always trying to protect himself, and always searching for...danger :D. And I'm quite sure he's a gambler (but I cannot prove it right now, so let's not talk about that, even if his y and his g, you know...hum...)

Sebastian is a thought. He thinks a lot, too much most of the time. So doing things..well...not before thinking...and thinking again :D. And Sebastian is thinking, because Sebastian is...impulsive (I told you he's made of contradictions). but he probably noticed that "impulsive" is not good, impulsions have prices nobody wants to pay, so his mind started to...think before acting :D.

So, Sebastian is an excessive person trying to be balanced. Voilà voilà.  

 Sebastian's got a problem with Sebastian (that's the thing we won't talk about that you can CLEARLY see in the way he writes "Sebastian" : he's writing his first name entirely, and then he surrounds it _protection_, and he violently scratches  it...well...Sebastian's got a problem with Sebastian) , but Sebastian is a proud part of the Stan familly. He loves his familly. He wants wife and Stan children, in a balanced life...BUT Sebastian wants to be Sebastian too (yes, it's just another contradiction, I know... told you the man is complication, he's worse than Reznor himself arrff!!! <3). Stan is important, but not more important than just Sebastian, as a person, as an individual part of the Stan familly. He needs to be recognized within his own family (extended his circle of friends). 

Signature analysis here

I wrote Tom Hiddleston is Dr Who, always exploding emotions, trying to eat the whole world. Sebastian is more like Sherlock  Holmes : he's got his own little world, with few people, but he wants to be the most important part of this little world. So that the Stan familly is very important, but little boy Sebastian is important too. It's probably the only balanced thing inside him :D !!

Oh, there's something else that's balanced inside Sebastian : his ego. Neither too much or too little (not too little/too big writing)

So, we have complexity and agitation, but with a real search for peace, stability, with sense of responsability.

When I write "sense of responsability", I mean Sebastian is the type of man stopping everything, inculding carreer, to raise his children. And in case of divorce, don't expect to go with his children. You got it all wrong. He's the guy following you everywhere, buying the house next to yours, not for you, for his children. And he's an obstinated person, "Sebby the turtle", with or without discipline.

So yeah, I won't be surprised if he suddenly disappear from Hollywood, living his little life somewhere, travelling around the world with wife and familly. He was not born for Hollywood lights. Hollywood detroys people internalizing feelings and thoughts. Hollywood is about lying, showing off...and being exposed. All of the time. Being exposed comes almost naturally to Tom Hiddleston, he can deal with that, he even likes it. But Sebastian is the exact opposite of Hiddleston on many many points. So being exposed is not his nature, at all. 

I usually associate people to a song. I wrote Hiddleston is The World In My Eyes (Depeche Mode). Sebastian is clarly a Rob Dougan song. I think Sebastian is Clubbed to Death (he's no suicidal, so he cannot be I'm Not Driving Anymore, and he's not possessive/obsessed enough to be Furious Angels, so, he's Clubbed to Death)

Remember I'm not a pro, this is just a hobby to me, I am certainly wrong about few things and right about others. This is just fun, not absolute truth. I don't know him, never met him, this is just...fun :)

Thanks A LOT to www.sebastianstanspain.com for translating all of this in spanish (here). You are AWESOME !

@lokipinkrabbit

@_something2b_

Lorsque j'étais au lycée, j'ai discuté IVG une fois avec ma meilleure amie, Alexandra. Elle était pour. Elle avait toutes sortes d'arguments que je n'ai pas retenus, par contre, elle a dit "j'vais pas laisser un tas d'viande m'gâcher la vie", et ça, ça m'a choquée, alors j'ai bien retenu.

J'ai retenu parce qu'on a appris les mêmes choses elle et moi, on a eu les mêmes cours de biologie, qui nous ont expliqué que "tas de viande" est 1 : vivant, 2 : constitué d'adn HUMAIN. Ce n'est donc ni une brosse à dent ni un cheval, son adn identifie clairement "tas de viande" à un être humain vivant. Ayant son adn propre (c'est important, vu que du coup, on ne parle plus du corps de la mère, mais du corps d'un autre être humain vivant).

Alors sur twitter, on m'explique qu'on ne parle pas d'un vrai humain puisque 1: ça n'est pas né, 2 : c'est "juste" un embryon.

Hum.

Je porte plainte contre l'industrie du cinéma qui, à chaque fois que dans un film une femme enceinte perd son "tas de viande", nous dramatise la chose comme si un bébé était mort. Nan, la dame elle a juste perdu...ben on ne sait trop quoi, un "embryon", vous comprenez, c'est pas vraiment vivant puisque ce n'est pas né, et de toute façon, c'est tout sauf un bébé, disons qu'elle a perdu "un tas de cellules vivantes à ADN humain". Pas de quoi allimenter l'imaginaire collectif. 

Pourquoi le spéctateur s'en émeut-il? Ce qu'il peut être bête j'vous jure...ou alors le spectateur sait bien que même à 2H de fécondation, une femme a dans son ventre...un bébé...humain...une graine d'humain fécondée.

Voyez-vous, un agriculteur, lorsqu'il voit une graine gonflée, il sait qu'il regarde une plante. Il ne va pas l'écraser en se disant que cette graine n'est pas, s'il le faisait avec tout son blé, il sait qu'il ne récolterait rien de rien. Non , l'agriculteur, il regarde sa graine gonflée d'eau, il sait qu'il regarde du blé. 

Vous l'imaginez, vous, l'agriculteur jettant des graines dans son champs, et pirtinant toutes celles qui commencent à gonfler en hurlant " ce n'est pas du blé, ce n'est rien du tout!!" ? Vous le feriez interner.

Par contre, une graine fécondée d'humain, curieusement, ça ne serait pas de l'humain vraiment. On ne sait pas trop ce que c'est du coup, vu que scientifiquement, ça vit et ça a de l'ADN humain, alors bon, on ne peut pas appeller ça cheval ou pied de biche non plus, alors voilà, on est bien embêté, on essaie de débattre de "à partir de quand un humain est-il considérable comme un humain".

Bon, scientifiquement, si vous donnez "tas de viande" à analyser à un généticien, comme je vous le disais, il vous dira que c'est bien de l'humain, et que ça vit, en plus. 

C'est fâcheux.

Si vous donnez ce "tas de viande vivant à ADN humain" à un bibliste, il vous dira que le roi  David, s'adressant à son Créateur dans Psaumes, lui dit :"Tes yeux ont vu mon embryon,et dans ton livre étaient inscrites toutes ses parties,pour ce qui est des jours où elles furent formées et où il n’y avait pas encore une seule d’entre elles."(Psaumes 139:16) . Là, c'est fâcheux aussi, il semblerait que David, et surtout Dieu, aient considéré que l'embryon en question était bien David lui-même, et le passage précise qu'il "n'était pas encore formé" il était donc au stade de "ovaire tout juste fécondé". Avant naissance et tout et tout.

C'est encore fâcheux tout ça. Surtout que les Psaumes sont reconnus par les juifs, les chrétiens et les musulmans. 

Et donc, on me dit "l'IVG sauve des vies". Stupéfaction : Ah bon ? Mais dites, combien de ces femmes seraient mortes en accouchant ? On vit où la ? On vit quand ? Au moyen-âge ?

Soyons sérieux j'vous prie. l'IVG tue à TOUS LES COUPS au moins 1 humain : "tas de viande vivant à ADN humain"

Et de me hurler "vaut mieux ça qu'un enfant malheureux". Hum...déjà, comment savez-vous que l'enfant serait à ce point malheureux ? Vous savez, même adoptés, il y'a des millions et des millions d'humains qui vivent très bien.

En outre, si être vivant et malheureux n'en vaut tellement pas la peine, laissez donc les malheureux se suicider en paix ! C'que vous êtes cruels et égoïstes.

Essayons un truc : on laisse "tas de viande vivant à ADN humain" vivre, et s'il est à ce point malheureux, on le laisse se suicider en paix. On essaie, pour voir ? Hum ? Non ? Ben pourquoi ?

Quelle hécatombe au nom de la vie ou du bonheur ! Et quelle mauvaise foi surtout.

Du coup, je vous suggère, Ô ivgistes d'assumer un peu et de dire, juste, que vous voulez tuer ce "tas de viande vivant à ADN humain", non pas parce que la femme fait ce qu'elle veut de son corps, puisqu'on ne parle pas de son corps, "tas de viande" a son propre ADN bien à lui, mais parce que la naissance de cet humain là contrarie ses géniteurs. 

Assumez donc que vous mettez à mort "tas de ciande à ADN humain"

Voilà, là vous voyez, vous aurez l'air plus crédibles et vachement moins hypocrites.

Parce que vous entendre m'expliquer que de ce que ces femmes enlèvent de leurs corps n'est ni vivant ni humain, ça m'éneeeeeeeerve...autant qu'un épisode de Secret Story voyez ?

#Bisou

Je n'ai jamais comparé 2 écritures pour voir si elles étaient identiques, c'est donc tout nouveau pour moi. Mais suite à l'article de Rue89, je ne peux m'empécher d'essayer :)

Alors qu'avons-nous? L'autographe contesté

Et quelques autographes ccertifiés

_Ca se ressemble beaucoup, je vous l'accorde, cependant, je m'interroge sur le B d'arbitre dans l'autographe contesté.

Pourquoi? Parce qu'il n'a pas d'entame (lien qui lie 2 lettres entre elles), or l'on écrit B comme l'on écrit L, ou presque, et les L de Lorent ont tous une entame. De plus, Lorent a des L bien pleins, avec ample (haut des lettres élancées) pleine, ce B a une hambe batonnée. C'est curieux. Possible, mais curieux.

_De même pour 2 T de l'autographe contesté, outre leurs formes différentes des T habituels de Lorent, ils n'ont pas d'entame non plus. J'ajoute que Lorent a tendance à avoir écrire les lettres de façon identiques à chaque fois (souvent selon la position de la lettre dans un mot ou une phrase, on peut avoir tendance à l'écrire différemment, dans son cas, cela est vraiment rare, or là, nous avons dans le même tout petit mot 2 formes de T différentes sur 4 T écrits!) et un seul de ces T a une entame, ce qui est étrange.

_pour enfoncer le clou, j'ajoute que le F de l'autographe contesté diffère vraiment beaucoup des F de Lorent, vous observerez, encore, l'absence d'entame et de hampe. J'ai sur ce billet  2 F de Lorent : 

Ca n'a rien à voir avec le F de l'autographe contesté, voyez comme ces 2 F ont une belle entame et comme leurs hampes forment des bulles, non pas des bâtons!

Sinon, la direction (vers le haut orienté à droite), et la forme générale de l'écriture de l'autographe contesté sont bonnes.

Bref, il est effectivement possible que cet autographe soit un faux. Mais il est vrai que je ne me suis jamais livrée à cet exercice, je peux me tromper :)

Si l'on me demande mon avis, je dirais que l'autographe est faux et que la sgnature finalle a été inspirée par le vrai autographe ici. Voyez comme les 2 signatures se ressemblent, sans être tout à fait identiques